Well what can I say, just as you hear of one famous celeb dying, another one bites the dust.
For those that don't know, Michael Jackson has saddely died of a heart attack within the last couple of hours. I know he is more music but he did do Moonwalker.
This is a total shock and think it will have a devastating effect all over the world.
Carl B Harrison
Yes, I too was very shocked and surprised when I heard of his death, in fact I still find it hard to take in.
He was a talented artist that we will never see the likes of again
Is Michael Jackson in the Witness Protection program
oddbodd
Michael Jackson was the first musician I ever really liked - this began about at the time of Bad, and fabulous album, though beaten hands down by Thriller.
Surely if they wanted to fake his death they'd have just put a dummy or other fake body in the bodybag in the helicopter? There's no logical reason for him to be in the helicopter if he was alive.
Carl B Harrison
hisomuhito wrote:
Surely if they wanted to fake his death they'd have just put a dummy or other fake body in the bodybag in the helicopter? There's no logical reason for him to be in the helicopter if he was alive.
Been a bit busy so never got around to answering this... any hoo!
Well, I could have given the obvious and easy answer, which was, we are talking Michael Jackson here !! LOL
But! ..... there are simply too many variables, coincidences, unexplained events, conveniences and clues for Michael Jackson’s supposed death to be an open and shut case.
Why is that person being so closely escorted, shielded almost?
If you remember, the mansion that MJ was living in at the time was paid for by the up and coming concert organizers.
Usually all the houses in that area, which was discussed on the channel 4 documentary, all have a telephone communication block, in other words no one can listen in to any communications made, but this was not so with his temporary accommodation and so as we all know the press were immediately aware of what was going on as they listend in. As the ambulance left all the media and everyone followed it to the hospital, where (continue from channel 4 doc) the crouds were threatening to storm into the hospital. The hospital was surrounded by thousands of people and a media frenzy. All exits were being watched (shown in chanel 4 doc) so how do you get out and at the same time head to the coroners office were you need to provide a body for record dated photographs, ... sometimes when you are in a corner you have to take the only way out.
The helicopter scenario, if you watch it, reminds me of how a magician does the "walks through the wall" trick, in fact before I saw the cu I watched the original footage of which I did not know at the time, that anything was up. I thought to myself, this is how David Copperfeld did his Great Wall Of China trick and bobs your uncle, there was, something fishy going on when we saw the CU. (walking through wall trick .... ref .... Sky , magicians reveal their secrets etc) misdirection and blatantly moving the body infront of thousands of people ... thats the way they do the trick and thats the way they did this.
relevant info.
If death is unexpected, traumatic or suspicious, or the cause of death cannot be documented on the death certificate, the body will need to be taken to the coroner’s office .
Death Registration form - This form collects two types of information about the deceased. The first is demographic information and is usually provided by the deceased’s family. The second type identifies the cause of death; that information is provided by the coroner.
The body cannot be disposed of without it been signed. After disposal, the entity responsible for that disposal must sign the Burial Permit form and return it to the County Recorder.
Once the County Recorder has certified the death registration form as complete and accurate, they can provide:
A Certified Death Abstract (commonly called a Death Certificate) printed on official paper. This certified death abstract is the document most organizations require as proof of the death. (( the company will not provide benefits )) without this proof of death. ....... so!
Michael Jackson really did need to be at the coroner’s office no matter how difficult it was in getting there as they required a body for samples, fake pics and anything else that would authenticate his supposed death.
So .... Happy 51st birthday MJ LOL
Surely if they wanted to fake his death they'd have just put a dummy or other fake body in the bodybag in the helicopter? There's no logical reason for him to be in the helicopter if he was alive.
Been a bit busy so never got around to answering this... any hoo!
Well, I could have given the obvious and easy answer, which was, we are talking Michael Jackson here !! LOL
But! ..... there are simply too many variables, coincidences, unexplained events, conveniences and clues for Michael Jackson’s supposed death to be an open and shut case.
Why is that person being so closely escorted, shielded almost?
If you remember, the mansion that MJ was living in at the time was paid for by the up and coming concert organizers.
Usually all the houses in that area, which was discussed on the channel 4 documentary, all have a telephone communication block, in other words no one can listen in to any communications made, but this was not so with his temporary accommodation and so as we all know the press were immediately aware of what was going on as they listend in. As the ambulance left all the media and everyone followed it to the hospital, where (continue from channel 4 doc) the crouds were threatening to storm into the hospital. The hospital was surrounded by thousands of people and a media frenzy. All exits were being watched (shown in chanel 4 doc) so how do you get out and at the same time head to the coroners office were you need to provide a body for record dated photographs, ... sometimes when you are in a corner you have to take the only way out.
The helicopter scenario, if you watch it, reminds me of how a magician does the "walks through the wall" trick, in fact before I saw the cu I watched the original footage of which I did not know at the time, that anything was up. I thought to myself, this is how David Copperfeld did his Great Wall Of China trick and bobs your uncle, there was, something fishy going on when we saw the CU. (walking through wall trick .... ref .... Sky , magicians reveal their secrets etc) misdirection and blatantly moving the body infront of thousands of people ... thats the way they do the trick and thats the way they did this.
relevant info.
If death is unexpected, traumatic or suspicious, or the cause of death cannot be documented on the death certificate, the body will need to be taken to the coroner’s office .
Death Registration form - This form collects two types of information about the deceased. The first is demographic information and is usually provided by the deceased’s family. The second type identifies the cause of death; that information is provided by the coroner.
The body cannot be disposed of without it been signed. After disposal, the entity responsible for that disposal must sign the Burial Permit form and return it to the County Recorder.
Once the County Recorder has certified the death registration form as complete and accurate, they can provide:
A Certified Death Abstract (commonly called a Death Certificate) printed on official paper. This certified death abstract is the document most organizations require as proof of the death. (( the company will not provide benefits )) without this proof of death. ....... so!
Michael Jackson really did need to be at the coroner’s office no matter how difficult it was in getting there as they required a body for samples, fake pics and anything else that would authenticate his supposed death.
So .... Happy 51st birthday MJ LOL
LOL .......
Officials today announced, that, the MJ Government ambulance conspiracy was performed to see how quickly a MJ conspiracy would spread around the internet LOL
Right, you used the original Ambulance that picked up his body, you get access to the coroners office and have control of the security gates to close them !!!
Your talking Government vehicles , Government building access, employees of the state and an admittance that this was done to see how a conspiracy would spread around the internet, which would be an obvious for gone conclusion LOL,
So if this is true, won't heads roll for abusing tax payers money ... ....
Nice try .... we know somethings up.
hisomuhito
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
TNC 2
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
hisomuhito
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
You obviously don't recognise sarcasm when you see it.. The winking smiley was a clue..
Chloe
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
H/Nige/K or whatever youre calling yourself nowadays it was a stupid thing to say even if you were being sarcastic. Some people ignore the smilies. That is something you would come out with even if you werent being sarcastic, and that winkie at the end could mean something else. You obviously dont know how to use them properly!
TNC 2
hisomuhito wrote:
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
You obviously don't recognise sarcasm when you see it.. The winking smiley was a clue..
i cnt c the f*** smily u daft c***. it only cums up as a cupl of simbols on my comp. tink u ned to lern how 2 rit sarcasm lik in a script, butt u dont know how 2 i tink.
hisomuhito
FFS Lighten up people. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill..
oddbodd
Carl - no chance. MJ's going to be the next Elvis, I think. He's dead. End of.
Nige - Excellent use of sarcasm. Have you ever thought about becoming a script writer?
Chloe - Love the way you pan Nige's use of smilies, which have no rules of usage, when ignoring age-old rules for apostrophe usage. God bless ya, you rebel, you. Oh yeah, and put, "sense of humour" on your shopping list for this weekend.
TNC - "u ned to lern how 2 rit ": Oh, the IRONY! I could go all day on that one.
TNC 2
oddbodd wrote:
Carl - no chance. MJ's going to be the next Elvis, I think. He's dead. End of.
Nige - Excellent use of sarcasm. Have you ever thought about becoming a script writer?
Chloe - Love the way you pan Nige's use of smilies, which have no rules of usage, when ignoring age-old rules for apostrophe usage. God bless ya, you rebel, you. Oh yeah, and put, "sense of humour" on your shopping list for this weekend.
TNC - "u ned to lern how 2 rit ": Oh, the IRONY! I could go all day on that one.
carl - u f*** stik 2 ur guns mayt. if u tink hes aliv tats ur f*** opineon.
cloe - get f*** stuk in girl. put tem rit.
h/nige/k - (wot the f*** dus k stand 4) u wud no al abowt makin f*** mowntans out of mol hils frm wot ive herd.
odbod - wunderd wen the boyfrend (or is it girlfrend now adays) wud f*** tun up. get ur qwot rit, and plese go on al day. I ned a qur 4 my ensomnea. at lest i hav a reson 4 my ritin problims.
Chloe
Oddbodd my dear, it's so nice of you to join our riveting conversation. I was wondering how long it would take for the monster from the anal pit to rear its ugly head and pat its partner on the back, etc!
How I love your sarcastic and insensitive responses! (Sarcastically and humourous) smilies have uses not rules my dear, which is a hell of a difference, especially where I come from.
As for my use of the apostrophe, I'm so amused at your comments, especially from someone can't use comas and speech marks properly. On forums like this, I'm a lazy writer, normally, and don't use them by choice, as well as some other punctuation. I did get an A in GCSE and A-Level English after all. (Notice the use of apostrophes.)
I'll go shopping for a "Sense of Humour" if you go shopping for a "Personality."
Now for the MJ thing, he will be a bit like Elvis, but he's not dead; although his body may have passed on, his spirit lives, regardless, so he's not really regarded as dead, as his legacy will live forever! I was a big Michael Jackson before he went weird, but still think his music and performances are fantastic. Long live MJ!
Carl B Harrison
OMG .....
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
hisomuhito wrote:
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
You obviously don't recognise sarcasm when you see it.. The winking smiley was a clue..
Chloe wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
H/Nige/K or whatever youre calling yourself nowadays it was a stupid thing to say even if you were being sarcastic. Some people ignore the smilies. That is something you would come out with even if you werent being sarcastic, and that winkie at the end could mean something else. You obviously dont know how to use them properly!
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
You obviously don't recognise sarcasm when you see it.. The winking smiley was a clue..
i cnt c the f*** smily u daft c***. it only cums up as a cupl of simbols on my comp. tink u ned to lern how 2 rit sarcasm lik in a script, butt u dont know how 2 i tink.
hisomuhito wrote:
FFS Lighten up people. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill..
oddbodd wrote:
Carl - no chance. MJ's going to be the next Elvis, I think. He's dead. End of.
Nige - Excellent use of sarcasm. Have you ever thought about becoming a script writer?
Chloe - Love the way you pan Nige's use of smilies, which have no rules of usage, when ignoring age-old rules for apostrophe usage. God bless ya, you rebel, you. Oh yeah, and put, "sense of humour" on your shopping list for this weekend.
TNC - "u ned to lern how 2 rit ": Oh, the IRONY! I could go all day on that one.
TNC 2 wrote:
oddbodd wrote:
Carl - no chance. MJ's going to be the next Elvis, I think. He's dead. End of.
Nige - Excellent use of sarcasm. Have you ever thought about becoming a script writer?
Chloe - Love the way you pan Nige's use of smilies, which have no rules of usage, when ignoring age-old rules for apostrophe usage. God bless ya, you rebel, you. Oh yeah, and put, "sense of humour" on your shopping list for this weekend.
TNC - "u ned to lern how 2 rit ": Oh, the IRONY! I could go all day on that one.
carl - u f*** stik 2 ur guns mayt. if u tink hes aliv tats ur f*** opineon.
cloe - get f*** stuk in girl. put tem rit.
h/nige/k - (wot the f*** dus k stand 4) u wud no al abowt makin f*** mowntans out of mol hils frm wot ive herd.
odbod - wunderd wen the boyfrend (or is it girlfrend now adays) wud f*** tun up. get ur qwot rit, and plese go on al day. I ned a qur 4 my ensomnea. at lest i hav a reson 4 my ritin problims.
Chloe wrote:
Oddbodd my dear, it's so nice of you to join our riveting conversation. I was wondering how long it would take for the monster from the anal pit to rear its ugly head and pat its partner on the back, etc!
How I love your sarcastic and insensitive responses! (Sarcastically and humourous) smilies have uses not rules my dear, which is a hell of a difference, especially where I come from.
As for my use of the apostrophe, I'm so amused at your comments, especially from someone can't use comas and speech marks properly. On forums like this, I'm a lazy writer, normally, and don't use them by choice, as well as some other punctuation. I did get an A in GCSE and A-Level English after all. (Notice the use of apostrophes.)
I'll go shopping for a "Sense of Humour" if you go shopping for a "Personality."
Now for the MJ thing, he will be a bit like Elvis, but he's not dead; although his body may have passed on, his spirit lives, regardless, so he's not really regarded as dead, as his legacy will live forever! I was a big Michael Jackson before he went weird, but still think his music and performances are fantastic. Long live MJ!
I just wanted to cause a bit controversy and bring a bit of needed life back to the forum, I wasn't planning on world war 3 LOL.
Lets all just have a cup of camomile tea, I'm sure MJ would approve. in this or the next life. Hope I used the right winkies
oddbodd
TNC wrote:
get ur qwot rit
I did. It was cut and pasted.
Chloe wrote:
How I love your sarcastic and insensitive responses! (Sarcastically and humourous) smilies have uses not rules my dear, which is a hell of a difference, especially where I come from.
As for my use of the apostrophe, I'm so amused at your comments, especially from someone can't use comas and speech marks properly. On forums like this, I'm a lazy writer, normally, and don't use them by choice, as well as some other punctuation. I did get an A in GCSE and A-Level English after all. (Notice the use of apostrophes.)
I'll go shoppin for a "Sense of Humour" if you go shopping for a "Personality."
Chloe,
I love you. I want to marry you and have your children. For no other reason than the above proof that top marks in English mean sweet Fanny Adams.
1. Comma has 2 Ms. I wouldn't know how to use a coma.
2. "Sarcastically and humourous" - "Sarcastically" is an adverb and therefore has no place in this construction; furthermore, "humourous" is spelt incorrectly. "Sarcastic and humorous", or indeed, "Sarcastically humorous" would be better, but both would be tautological.
3. My use of quotation marks and commas is quite correct, or at least one correct way of using them. I believe convention differs from person to person. The main thing is to be consistent, unless it is for effect (a good example of which can be found in Margaret Atwood's The Handmaid's Tale).
4. Entire sentences should not be parenthesised, nor should the full stop appear within the parentheses.
5. The present participle for the verb, "to shop" is, "shopping", not, "shoppin".
6. "Sense of Humour" and, "Personality" have no need to be capitalised here.
Nigel's use of the smiley was a perfectly acceptable indication of sarcasm. Should you infer anything else from that, I fail to see how blame can be apportioned to him.
A final question - where exactly do you come from, in terms of it being a place where the use of something differs from its rules? You'll find that this concept is universal.
Chloe
Carl B Harrison wrote:
:
I just wanted to cause a bit controversy and bring a bit of needed life back to the forum, I wasn't planning on world war 3 LOL.
Lets all just have a cup of camomile tea, I'm sure MJ would approve. in this or the next life. Hope I used the right winkies
LOL!!!!
Hi Carl, sounds like you've had a complaint, or two. Like you i just wanted to add a little flavour to the forum as its been dead for a while. When youve got the gruesome twosome on he who are sooooo easy to wind up, its so FUN!!!! Love them both really!!!
Perfect use of smilies!
I prefer liquorish or cherry tea. Think we should leave this topic for now.
Chloe
oddbodd wrote:
Chloe,
I love you. I want to marry you and have your children.
Oh Oddbodd, yes I do, I do, I do! You gorgeous sexy beast of a man. How I've dreamed of this moment. I want to have your babies. Someone who is so knowledgeable in English just turns me on. oooowww! Hang on, I cant, Im spoken for Im afraid! But I may consider leaving him just for you!
Im not going to get into a debate with you about your English, my dear because Id wipe the floor with you any day of the week and youre so arrogant about it. I think you take the English thing a bit too serious, and need to get a hobby, or even a life. Like I said, Im a lazy writer on forums, hence the coma/comma and humourous/humorous spelling, and the fact I had a bit to drink didnt help. When it comes to my job, I'm perfect.
I come from South Yorkshire my dear, and nothing is totally universal, even smilies.
Hugs
X
C
oddbodd
Chloe wrote:
I come from South Yorkshire my dear, and nothing is totally universal, even smilies.
Ah, Yorkshire. Lovely part of the world. Can't say I know South Yorkshire too well, but the Dales are lovely.
Chloe
oddbodd wrote:
Chloe wrote:
I come from South Yorkshire my dear, and nothing is totally universal, even smilies.
Ah, Yorkshire. Lovely part of the world. Can't say I know South Yorkshire too well, but the Dales are lovely.
It is indeed! So is South Yorkshire. You should pay a visit some time.
Philster
Carl B Harrison wrote:
OMG .....
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
hisomuhito wrote:
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
You obviously don't recognise sarcasm when you see it.. The winking smiley was a clue..
Chloe wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
H/Nige/K or whatever youre calling yourself nowadays it was a stupid thing to say even if you were being sarcastic. Some people ignore the smilies. That is something you would come out with even if you werent being sarcastic, and that winkie at the end could mean something else. You obviously dont know how to use them properly!
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
TNC 2 wrote:
hisomuhito wrote:
Maybe they're spreading the idea of a conspiracy to cover up the fact that he really is dead..
wot! r u 4 f*** rel. wy the f*** wud ne1 want 2 cuver up hes ded. if fans carnt tak it hes ded tats thair f*** problam. a*** hole!
You obviously don't recognise sarcasm when you see it.. The winking smiley was a clue..
i cnt c the f*** smily u daft c***. it only cums up as a cupl of simbols on my comp. tink u ned to lern how 2 rit sarcasm lik in a script, butt u dont know how 2 i tink.
hisomuhito wrote:
FFS Lighten up people. Talk about making a mountain out of a mole hill..
oddbodd wrote:
Carl - no chance. MJ's going to be the next Elvis, I think. He's dead. End of.
Nige - Excellent use of sarcasm. Have you ever thought about becoming a script writer?
Chloe - Love the way you pan Nige's use of smilies, which have no rules of usage, when ignoring age-old rules for apostrophe usage. God bless ya, you rebel, you. Oh yeah, and put, "sense of humour" on your shopping list for this weekend.
TNC - "u ned to lern how 2 rit ": Oh, the IRONY! I could go all day on that one.
TNC 2 wrote:
oddbodd wrote:
Carl - no chance. MJ's going to be the next Elvis, I think. He's dead. End of.
Nige - Excellent use of sarcasm. Have you ever thought about becoming a script writer?
Chloe - Love the way you pan Nige's use of smilies, which have no rules of usage, when ignoring age-old rules for apostrophe usage. God bless ya, you rebel, you. Oh yeah, and put, "sense of humour" on your shopping list for this weekend.
TNC - "u ned to lern how 2 rit ": Oh, the IRONY! I could go all day on that one.
carl - u f*** stik 2 ur guns mayt. if u tink hes aliv tats ur f*** opineon.
cloe - get f*** stuk in girl. put tem rit.
h/nige/k - (wot the f*** dus k stand 4) u wud no al abowt makin f*** mowntans out of mol hils frm wot ive herd.
odbod - wunderd wen the boyfrend (or is it girlfrend now adays) wud f*** tun up. get ur qwot rit, and plese go on al day. I ned a qur 4 my ensomnea. at lest i hav a reson 4 my ritin problims.
Chloe wrote:
Oddbodd my dear, it's so nice of you to join our riveting conversation. I was wondering how long it would take for the monster from the anal pit to rear its ugly head and pat its partner on the back, etc!
How I love your sarcastic and insensitive responses! (Sarcastically and humourous) smilies have uses not rules my dear, which is a hell of a difference, especially where I come from.
As for my use of the apostrophe, I'm so amused at your comments, especially from someone can't use comas and speech marks properly. On forums like this, I'm a lazy writer, normally, and don't use them by choice, as well as some other punctuation. I did get an A in GCSE and A-Level English after all. (Notice the use of apostrophes.)
I'll go shopping for a "Sense of Humour" if you go shopping for a "Personality."
Now for the MJ thing, he will be a bit like Elvis, but he's not dead; although his body may have passed on, his spirit lives, regardless, so he's not really regarded as dead, as his legacy will live forever! I was a big Michael Jackson before he went weird, but still think his music and performances are fantastic. Long live MJ!
I just wanted to cause a bit controversy and bring a bit of needed life back to the forum, I wasn't planning on world war 3 LOL.
Lets all just have a cup of camomile tea, I'm sure MJ would approve. in this or the next life. Hope I used the right winkies
LMAO!
Crikey what the f***’s gone on here, World War 3 is an understatement! (LOL)
Sorry to sound like a git but can I remind people to stick to the topic of the threat.
Oddbodd/Chloe – girls, girls, girls, this threat is about Michael Jackson NOT f****** English standards. It doesn’t surprise me who started that though. However, if you would like to see my comments on the issues raised, please go to the threat I’ve set up where you can go and bitch or banter about anything you like and not worry about deviating from a topic.
Yes, I too was very shocked and surprised when I heard of his death, in fact I still find it hard to take in.
13 min ago news 
http://www.chicagotribune.com/new...coroner-story,0,1779179.htmlstory 
LOL .......
(Sarcastically and humourous) smilies have uses not rules my dear, which is a hell of a difference, especially where I come from.
